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Postby Lightfeather » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:24 pm

I just finished reading The Codex by Douglas Preston. I'd write my own review of it but I know I'd end up spoiling it so I'll just transcribe the back. I really enjoyed this book.:

"Greetings from the dead," declares Maxwell Broadbent on the videotape he left behind after his mysterious disappearance. A notorious treasure hunter and tomb robber, Broadbent accumulated over a half a billion dollars' worth of priceless art, gems and artifacts before vanishing - along with his entire collection - from his mansion in New Mexico.

As a final challenge to his three sons, Broadbent has buried himself and his treasure somewhere in the world, hidden away like an ancient Egyptian pharaoh. If the sons wish to claim their inheritance, they must find their father's carefully concealed tomb.

The race is on, but among Broadbent's treasures is an ancient Mayan codex that may hold a secret far more important than the wealth of riches among it, and Broadbent's sons aren't the only ones after it.
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Postby Ugluk » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:00 am

Anyone read The Dark Tower series by Stephen King? We are through 5 of the 7 books, but we got derailed with The Hobbit (again) while waiting for Heidi to pick up Book 6.

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Postby Baile » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:19 am

I think I read the first 3 and then got side tracked with other books, then games came along and I totally forgot about it. Although I can't remember what it is now, I do remember I was thoroughly enjoying them. Was it about stepping back and forth between dimensions?
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Postby Ugluk » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:45 am

Yeah, there's a running storyline involving Roland Deschaine of Gilead and his quest to find and figgure out what is wrong with the Dark Tower and make it right.

King's recent books have had a lot of tie-ins with the Dark Tower (and so with one another), including The Talisman, Black House, Insomnia and Hearts in Atlantis. Probably a bunch more.

The fourth book is Wizard and Glass, and the majority of it is a flashback to Roland's fling with Susan Delgado, who's grisly fate is referred to in earlier books. And yeah, it isn't pretty.

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Postby skuppy » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:19 pm

Something Wicked This Way Comes by Ray Bradbury Overrated and chauvinistic to boot, but still classic in the timeless sense. I think I wouldI've liked this book more if I were 12 years younger.

The Dragons of Eden by Carl Sagan Wow, if you've never read a Sagan book your missing out on how wonderful and amazing science can be. This book is about 30 years outdated and yet still relevant. It's mostly about the evolution and physiology of the human brain.

Naked Lunch by William S. Burrougs A chore to read, it has these odd moments of amazing prose that reminded me of some of my favorite lyrics, but the overall lack of plot and time makes it impossible to become connected to anything in the story. His obsession with male ejaculation after the spinal cord is broken is grotesque and was a big turn off.
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Postby Uri » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:12 am

Any reviews for a Feast for Crows yet? The amazon reviews seem shitty, and I have to wait for a softcover because english books are really, really expensive here.
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Postby Phat.Stack » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:29 am

Im about two thirds of the way through the Feast of Crows, and I have to say that Martin does not dissapoint.

The books are true to the style of the series to date, and there hasnt been any of the "ho hum" moments that I disliked in the "Storm of Swords" (like some of the "travelling" chapters where a character gets from one point to another).

While there is a LOT more on the political side than there has been on the fighting/war/action side, I actually find it a great continuation of the series... a very natural progression (that and I like political maneuvering more anyway).

Great character development, excellent plot advancement... although:

SEMI SPOILER

Its been light on the whole "magic" side of the books... no chapters on the Others, Dragons or either of the Red Priests (or Priestess).

END OF SEMI SPOILER

Great book so far... Im speeding through it and enjoying every chapter.

Did I mention that most of the book has been about the Political maneuvering?

WELL IT IS... FYI!

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Postby Marcallo » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:45 am

I'm currently about 150 pages into Game of Thrones, and only just starting to enjoy it, I'm trying.... but umm I dunno. Wizards First Rule was just so much better. LOL I'll finish though it is getting more interesting.
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...and I'll look down, and whisper "no."

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Postby Ember » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:49 am

I was mulling my opinion around in my head and couldn't word it right, but Phatty got it right on the head.

I agree that the book is a great continuation. There was a ton of climatic end points for a lot of characters in the last book and this book starts out with all the consequences of those endings... lots of political manuvering.

I think Jaime's becoming one of my more favored characters. The more chapters I read that are about him the more and more bitingly sarcastic he is in response to his personality changing because of what happened to him in the last book. (So hard to be specific without spoiling anything.)

/edit - Marc, these books are right up your alley, trust me you'll never see what happens coming. Just keep reading :D
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Postby Marcallo » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:57 am

Don't be so sure, I think I already have a pretty good idea of where it's going and it's the reason I keep reading. I'm pleanty interested it's just slow getting there, which is good though he gives a ton of detail. Kind of like Robert Jordan. Only less 5 page sections about the stone by stone texture of the Tar'Valon bridge....
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...and I'll look down, and whisper "no."

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Postby Niralica » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:57 pm

Haha, yea Jordan started to irritate me. I haven't even bought the most recent book yet, and I'm not even interested in it in the least bit.
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Postby DandyoftheHighSeas » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:21 am

Schott's Original Miscellany

This has to be the most random yet enjoyable book I have ever read. Seriously. It's chock full of useless information (yet fun for trivia) but the intentions are noble (who wouldn't want to know that Buddy Holly died in 'that ' crash?).
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Postby Ugluk » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:08 am

<b>The Dark Tower, Stephen King (7 book series)</b>

I don't recommend it. /shrug

This took us around 9 months of evenings to read aloud. The original book / story was written 30 years ago, and it shows. The final 3 books were written in about 4 years time I think, and it also shows. The books have their interesting points, and if you are a fan of his other books you've seen tie-ins with the Dark Tower story, but there is really no continuity within the series to support the tie-ins. The most awkward was revealing Roland's nemesis 'the man in black' to be Randal Flagg from The Stand. Um.. ok .. except their personalities are not the same and Flagg was a demon.

Anyway .. it's a loooong series and had its moments but I'll not be reading it a second time.

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Postby Eggnog » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:06 pm

I finished FfC, and have to say I was hugely disappointed (though I still liked it, just not as much as the first three books). It was like the whole series hit a wall and just stopped.

Possible Spoilers (though not likely):

The political aspect is weak because its cersei who isn't half as interesting as tyrion or littlefinger, meathead jaime dealing with petty squabbles, and one-dimensional brienne chasing rumors. Blah. I would have been much happier if he had just alluded to all these events in the next book, because there really wasn't any need to witness these events firsthand. The little morsels about Arya, Jon, and Dany weren't enough and not a whisper of Tyrion. Perhaps if he had included more about Lady Stoneheart it would have been better.

On the plus side, Dance of Dragons might end up being the asskickingest book yet.
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Postby Marcallo » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:07 pm

Niralica wrote:Haha, yea Jordan started to irritate me. I haven't even bought the most recent book yet, and I'm not even interested in it in the least bit.



THe most recent bookf actually entertained me, STUFF HAPPENED. It was like Whoa, things are going on. Cool



AND - I finished A Game of THrones, and I think towards the end i actually started to enjoy it, I'm gonna pick up the 2nd one, so that says something. I'm still confused as to who the good guys are or where the story is going, but it is kinda interesting.
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...and I'll look down, and whisper "no."

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Postby Niralica » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:24 am

But apparently that wasn't the last one either. I have about 20 books on my shelf waiting to be read. I think I'll read those instead of Robert Jordan who prolly won't finish the damn story before he keels over.
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Postby Deldinor » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:42 am

Marcallo wrote:AND - I finished A Game of THrones, and I think towards the end i actually started to enjoy it, I'm gonna pick up the 2nd one, so that says something. I'm still confused as to who the good guys are or where the story is going, but it is kinda interesting.


It gets more confusing. There really ARE no good/bad guys except for the people you like and people you hate. I am only reading it because it has me hooked. I have to know what happens next!

And Knife of Dreams was really good.

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Postby Kiawah » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:29 pm

The Da Vinci Code

Daltos gave this book a one-line review, and that doesn't do this book near enough justice.

This book did receive a lot of hype, and it very well deserved all the hype it got. I read about half of it a year or so ago, but it was a borrowed copy, and I was never able to finish it. I started rereading it again this past week and just finished. It is literally one of the best books I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

This book, even without the "hype", is an exciting read. It's a suspenseful murder mystery, which is easy to read. The book keeps you so involved and interested that you can easily finish this 300+ pg book in one sitting.

The Hype
I'll try not to spoil any of the important things concerning the plot for people who haven't read it. For those who haven't this book looks into the history of the origins of Christianity and the life of Jesus. The reason why people were offended is that in the introduction, Dan Brown states that all references to art, history, secret societies, etc are all fact. The problem is that the "fact" is so intertwined with the "fiction" of the book, that's it's difficult to separate the "fact" from the "fiction".

Even if you are a devout Christian/Catholic, you should still read the book. In the book, Dan Brown makes it very clear, that he is never debating that Jesus existed. In fact he makes it a point to say that he never questions whether or not Jesus lived, that he was an important leader in his day and of all time, and his teachings were there to help people live better lives.

In order to solve the murder mystery that the main characters find themselves in, they must delve deep into the life of Jesus. The author offers a different theory as to the significance of Jesus that differs from the common worship that's been around since his death. He also makes a point of saying that today's Christians/Catholics are not wrong for believing and practicing what they do, but rather he offers a different interpretation of the life of Jesus.

I really don't see why or how a Christian or non-Christian would not enjoy this book. Like Dan Brown said, its main purpose is not to question faith, but to spark discussion, and he certainly accomplished that.

The book has a an enormous amount of interesting facts about the origins of Christianity and the symbols and customs that we use today. One of the things he talks about is how previous Pagan symbols were changed to have more evil undertones. For example, the 5 pointed star, the sign of the devil, originally was the sign for Venus, the goddess of love, another example is Poseidon's thingy he carried became the pitch fork for the devil. This is just a preview of some of the history of Christian symbols and their origins, which can be found in this book. The most interesting, and the underlying theme of the book, is Christian leaders taking away goddesses and making women out to be the bad guy. We went from worshiping the sacred feminine, embracing woman hood and woman sexuality, to women being the bringer of original sin. Why the church did this...you'll have to read to find out. :D

If you haven't read this book, I suggest dropping what you're doing right now, going to the bookstore, buying it, and reading it all tonight. You won't be sorry. If you don't want to read it, no worries, the movie will be out this summer.

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Postby Ugluk » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:34 pm

The only problem I have with Dan Brown's books is his tedious 'cliff-hanger' ends of chapters. He'll build up a bit of conflict and then shift gears entirely, leaving you hanging.

I've also read 'Angels and Demons' and 'Digital Fortress' and it's the same style. I think he came out with another book recently but I haven't been compelled to read it. The subject matter is interesting but his writing style really gets on my nerves at times.

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Postby Baile » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:10 am

I just finished The Black House by Stephen King and Peter Straub. I enjoyed it a lot.

I have to go back and read other books or reread them because it triggered a lot of memories that there is other books that pertain to this one. I'm thinking it might be the Black Tower Series.

Ugluk, is this the book we were once talking about that you and your wife were reading?
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Postby Eggnog » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:35 pm

Ichoatus has put up their review of Feast for Crows.

We don't have a defining event for this book. It ends up being without purpose. In a series of 6+ books, it could be the least-remembered and the least-remarked upon.


<a href="http://www.inchoatus.com/Reviews/Review--A%20Feast%20for%20Crows,%20George%20Martin.htm">Link</a>

BTW, if you haven't seen that site before, its quite possibly the most useful/accurate/insightful fantasy review site out there.
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Postby Phat.Stack » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:16 am

Eggnog wrote:Ichoatus has put up their review of Feast for Crows.


Hrm... I dont think I would agree with his interpretation

While this book was without a "significant" event, I believe that the character work (especially of Jamie and Cersi) made the entire book a very interesting read.

I think it was a much needed transition with everything that had gone on... a country that underwent as many significant changes as the 7 Kingdoms had COULDNT sustain that same level of inner turmoil that had been going on for the last 3 books.

There HAD to be a time of at least uneasy peace for the book to have some kind of realism.

I think this book built up the turmoil very well. I got the feeling that many "significant" events DID occur, but we wont see the effects of those until either the next book or the one after it.

I don't want to go INTO those significant events, but many of them are going to have some fucking major impact on the 7 kingdoms for a LONG time. Just becuase there wasnt a huge fanfare or dragons crashing down on a castle doesnt mean the event wasnt major.

After finishing A Feast for Crows, I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the book and I look forward to the next one and every one after it. Its like the Wheel of Time series without all the boring scenery description and MUCH better characters.

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Postby Lightfeather » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:50 pm

I read Quietus recently. I liked it very much. Click the link for a short synopsis.
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Postby Cycleptus » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:58 pm

If you check out George R.R. Martin's webiste, you'll see why Feast of Crows seems kinda unfinished (doesn't tie up any loose ends). Basically Martin wrote Feast of Crows but it was like waaaaay to long to get published so what he did was split up the massive book into two. That's why there are no chapters on Tyrion and some of the other characters, they will be appearing in the next book, which I think is basically done, so hopefully it will be out soon! Not sure if the series will be eight books long now instead of seven but as far as I'm concerened he can just keep on writing them.

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Postby Fluke » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:02 pm

Baile wrote:I just finished The Black House by Stephen King and Peter Straub. I enjoyed it a lot.

I have to go back and read other books or reread them because it triggered a lot of memories that there is other books that pertain to this one. I'm thinking it might be the Black Tower Series.

Ugluk, is this the book we were once talking about that you and your wife were reading?

:shocked!: You didn't read this <i>before</i> reading The Talisman, did you? The Black House is the sequal to The Talisman, and both of them are two of my favorite King books. And, yes, they do also tie into the Dark Tower series (which I just finished last night and loved :D ). Also, a good 'combo' of King books is Desperation and the Regulators. If you decide to read those two, I would suggest reading them in that order (Desperation first), but it doesn't really matter all too much, The Regulators just ends the parallel arcs better than Desperation.
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